AGRICULTURE AND ENVIRONMENT BIOTECHNOLOGY COMMISSION

 

LIABILITY SUB-GROUP

 

MEETINGS AT 11.00AM ON WEDNESDAY 5 DECEMBER AND 2.00PM ON THURSDAY 6 DECEMBER 2001 AT

ALBANY HOUSE, LONDON SW1

 

Note: These are the views of the group, and not necessarily of the full Commission

 

 

 

Present:

Phil Dale

Matthew Freeman

John Gilliland

Malcolm Grant

Derek Langslow (not 6 December)

Sue Mayer

Justine Thornton (Convenor)

Roger Turner

 

Anne Packer (Secretariat)

Alessandra Norman (Press office)

 

MEETING ON 5 DECEMBER

 

1.      Justine Thornton welcomed three new members to the group, Sue Mayer, Roger Turner and Phil Dale; this was now a full sub-group of the Commission rather than a developmental group.  The secretariat circulated a note from Justine Thornton on possible principles, as a basis for debate at a later meeting.  Alessandra Norman was attending the meeting to learn about liability issues.

 

Discussions with BSPB

2.      Justine Thornton welcomed Penny Maplestone from the British Society of Plant Breeders (BSPB) and Anthony Keeling from Elsoms Seeds (BSPB  member and President of the European Seed Association) to informal discussions with the group.  She explained the background to the AEBC liability group’s work, including its current series of briefing discussions.

 

3.      The plant breeding industry is concerned that its future  - and much government-funded biotechnology work (including environmentally beneficial work) - could be in jeopardy because of the proposals from the European Commission to set legal thresholds for the adventitious presence of GM material in non-GM seed.  Thresholds for adventitious presence of GMOs need to be reasonable and practical: BSPB see an urgent need for a feasible, practical legislative framework to allow producers of non-GM seed to continue to supply the UK farming and food industries with improved, high quality seed that people have come to expect. 

 

4.      BSPB concerns centre particularly on economic liability.  They have particular concerns about setting a zero threshold, with a zero tolerance, for unapproved GM events: if a single seed contained an unapproved event then it would be illegal to market and sow the seed batch.  A zero threshold was unrealistic, because of the circulation of pollen.  The risk would be so high that it would become impossible for seed companies to insure in important crops.  The onus would be on the producer of non-GM seed to comply, and to carry the cost.  It could also mean the end of GM crop trials in Europe and the impossibility of co-existence between GM and non-GM farming.  (Anthony Keeling illustrated the problem with an environmental clean-up genetic transformation project which is at risk due to this proposed legislation.)

 

5.      In practice, small companies with no involvement in GM crops could be hardest hit, because of the onus on ensuring there were no unapproved events and the ensuing costs.  This would exacerbate trends towards fewer and larger, multinational, companies.  Smaller companies have limited resources to make sure they keep out others’ transgenes.  Mixing could occur in open fields eg from wind blown pollen grains, and during cleaning and processing of seed from different crops.  Potential liability could be enormous, and it seemed that Government planned no legislative provision for cover if companies take all reasonable steps to avoid mixing.  (If the threshold were set around 1%, with proper disciplines, this would be feasible.)      

 

6.      Companies with both conventional seed production and biotechnology programmes would probably discontinue their research and development programmes in Europe.  There was evidence of this starting to happen.  The possibility of cross-pollination could be a major deterrent for companies to grow both breeding material and experimental crops.  Similarly, work to develop transgenic plants for bioremediation of contaminated soils would probably stop.  Research investment would dwindle, as universities and research institutes would not be prepared to risk the possibility of liability claims in case an unapproved event from their research was found in another company’s seed crop.  People would not be prepared to take risks for enormous potential liability, and would back away from the possibility.    It was not possible to get insurance cover for any potential future legislation, as its scope was inevitably uncertain.  BSPB did not think companies would have sufficient funds to provide sufficient for an industry-wide compensation fund, so this did not seem a viable option.

 

7.      Members asked whether Penny Maplestone and Anthony Keeling could let the group have evidence or views  - in the future - on what provisions could be manageable, based on their experience.   They said they were not sure whether this would be feasible, but would certainly consider the request.  

 

8.      Justine Thornton thanked Penny Maplestone and Anthony Keeling for their useful discussions with the group, and said that they would be welcome to let the AEBC group have any further issues, information or queries which they would like the group to consider.    

 

 

MEETING ON 6 DECEMBER

 

Discussions with DEFRA

9.      Justine Thornton welcomed Graham Davis and Elizabeth Jenkinson from the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (DEFRA) to informal discussions with the group.  She explained the background to the AEBC liability group’s work, including its current series of briefing discussions.  The group hoped to have a first draft of a report for consultation and consideration by the full AEBC in mid-2002.  She explained that Alessandra Norman was attending the meeting to learn about liability issues.   

 

10. Members agreed that issues for discussion and consideration include whether GMOs are so different from other things that a special liability regime may be needed; if a special regime were needed, in what circumstances it might apply, and what such a regime might look like.

 

11. There were three main types of loss relevant to liability for GMOs:

 

Background: current legislation

12. DEFRA described the legal framework in place for remediation of environmental damage arising from release of GMOs, if an offence has been proved under Part VI of the Environmental Protection Act 1990.  Existing case law, in particular on nuisance, might also apply.  For physical damage to property or land or personal injury, the laws of ‘nuisance’ and the rule in the case of Rylands and Fletcher provide for compensation for ‘traditional’ damage: individuals may take cases to court.  For economic loss, it was unclear how current law would apply specifically to GM crops issues. 

 

Possible EC legislation

13. The EC had consulted on a White Paper on environmental liability for a range of activities, including deliberate release of GMOs.  In July it had produced a working paper, and the Commission is working towards a draft Directive.  The proposals include damage to biodiversity.  The Working Paper proposals leave it to member States to decide both on how far traditional damage is to be covered by their liability regime, and whether – and if so how – economic loss is covered.

 

Economic loss

14. DEFRA suggested that discussions at this meeting could focus particularly on economic loss.  As the end of the FSEs approached, when considering commercialisation of GM crops, the Government needed to consider the possible co-existence of GM, conventional and organic farming – how co-existence might work in practice and what part separation distances and liability might play.  The Government would welcome AEBC advice on the need for liability rules which would be appropriate if there were commercial growing of GM crops and if there were agreement on appropriate separation distances.  There was also a question of timing - for example if new rules were required, whether they need to be in place before commercial growing of GM crops started.

 

15. Under the approach taken in the EC White Paper, economic loss would be for Member States to decide individually.  The Government would welcome advice in this area.  Some possible elements in a domestic liability regime for economic loss might include:

 

16.   There were several relevant timetables: for agreeing and implementing any EC Directive; for agreeing and implementing any primary domestic legislation; and for decision-making on possible commercialisation of GM crops after the Farm Scale Evaluations. 

 

17.   In further discussion, DEFRA said that some liability regimes include provision for state of the art precautions being taken, in which case there would not be liability for unforeseeable risks.  There were precedents for compensation funds in other industries and countries.  There was discussion about the validity of a distinction in any liability regime between for example plants which have been modified genetically and plants modified in a different way, but which have similar impacts; members noted that the animals and biotechnology group were concluding that GM and non-GM animals should be covered within the same regulatory regime.  Farm saved seed needed consideration.  Co-existence seemed a key issue in many areas, and there was the issue of who should bear risks. 

 

18. DEFRA would provide AEBC with information about UK land covered by the Natura 2000 designation, which appeared to be the land most likely to be covered for environmental damage within any EC provisions.

 

19. Justine Thornton thanked the officials for their helpful input to the liability group’s work, and said that they would be welcome to send in any further information.

 

Closing discussions

20. Some issues to carry forward for future discussions were noted:

·          AEBC would need to ensure it didn’t unintentionally endorse a system that by its nature rules out development of a technology. 

·        For insurance, issues included who bears what burden of proof, whether or not there is a ‘state of the art’ provision.  In some circumstances insurers could in effect become regulators, and insurers can’t create insurance until they can calculate the risks involved. 

 

Next meeting

21.   The meeting on 20 December would now start at 10.00am and continue until 1pm to allow for discussion both before and after the meetings with Victoria Beale from Freshfields and Tim Humphries from ABI.

 

 

 

AEBC Secretariat

December 2001